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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/23/11 12:06 PM
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Awe Brandi, thank you for sharing those beautiful pictures, and thank you for taking the time to give us updates. Just know that Simba is in our prayers every single second of every single day.
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/23/11 08:30 PM
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He is such a pretty boy! Thank you for sharing those pictures!
Keeping you guys in my thoughts and prayers!
~~Chrystal~~ My beautiful pair~ Zinger (aka:Evan) Karma (aka:Ivy) Thor 12/24/10 Twinkie 11/26/11
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/23/11 08:41 PM
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Brandi, I had forgotten how tiny he was. I remember when you got him and how and that you had to hand raise him. That seems like so long ago! He is strong because he has you for a mommy!
Connie 812-890-9734, 24/7 Emergencies/Joey issues SmallWorldSuggies"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward" "Glide free Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
[Re: DCMuffin]
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04/24/11 11:11 PM
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Still thinking of Brandi and Simba. Waiting for good news!
Owned by:My Loving Boyfriend <3 1 Ancient Cat - Simba 2 Little Suggies Winter and Luna
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 12:34 AM
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Brandi, after reading this thread, I am in tears. You and poor little Simba...You are both in my thoughts and I hope things are progressing in a positive direction....
Darby ~ Lucky to have rescued all of my "silly goosies" and my kitties Jani Rose and Artie-Choke
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
[Re: DCMuffin]
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04/25/11 02:05 AM
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Sorry I haven't been able to update everyone this weekend. It's been a little hectic with my daughter's bday and Easter and caring for Simba. Saturday night Simba started bleeding again. I cleaned him up and put some topical medicine on him. That seemed to help. He is still having some pain when he poops. The vet called me today to check on him. He said that the reason he is having pain when he poops is because the other vet put the stitches in through his cloaca and rectum and it is very sore now because of that. He said that he is thinking that Simba is going to probably end up having to have his penis amputated. He may take the stitch out tomorrow. He doesn't really want it in there long since he is so traumatized from what the other vet did. He is worried about it causing more damage and irritating him further. He said that once he takes it out he will most likely prolapse again within 48 hours. He left a message with Dr.Fronefield Friday but he had already left the office for the weekend. He also sent him an email. Hopefully Monday Dr.Fronefield will call him back so they can discuss what to do to help Simba. I'm supposed to drop Simba off first thing in the morning. He will keep me updated on how he's doing and if he has to take that stitch out. I did give Simba some supervised visitation with his wife and daughter. I was getting very concerned about them getting depressed from being separated from him. Nala is usually a hyper glider, like a 3 year old on sugar, but since she has been away from her husband she barely comes out of her sleeping pouch and hasn't been eating very well. Their daughter Izzy has been upset too. So after speaking with Mary we decided it would be best to give them some supervised visitation. I watched very closely to make sure they didn't mess with his rear end. I think it really helped! As soon as they saw each other they were all chirping and purring! Nala was rubbing her body all over Simba trying to get his smell on her and Izzy was grooming her dad's face and ears. Nala kept giving Simba kisses too. It was so sweet to see them happy again! Nala was acting hyper like she normally does! It made me feel good to see her acting like herself! Afterwards I went to give Simba a glidershake I made him and he ate pretty well! So it seems to have helped him seeing his girls! Here are a couple pictures I took during their visitation: Simba & Nala kissing while their daughter Izzy cuddles with her daddy. Izzy put Simba's head on her lap so she could snuggle with her daddy.
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 02:52 AM
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So glad they got to have a supervised visit. Still praying for Simba.
~Michelle~ wife, mom to 3 teens and 1 adult, and slave to my 8 gliders Skeeter, Luna, Rocky, Patches, Sweetie, Big Sissy, Little Buddha, and Nikko
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
[Re: DCMuffin]
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04/25/11 04:06 AM
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Izzy is such a daddy's girl! She's always following him around like a little lost puppy. He has been a very good dad to her too. He is always looking out for her and taking care of her, even though she's big enough to not need it anymore. He even shares his food with her like she's still a little joey. She has been lost without her daddy. Keep the thoughts and prayers coming! He needs all that he can get! I really appreciate all of the support everyone has given us. I don't think I could do this without ya'll! This has been so stressful and scary. I just wish it were all over with and Simba was all better. If anyone has experience with penis amputations please let me know what to expect just in case he does end up needing one. I would like to be prepared so I can give him the best care possible. I would also like to know what to expect afterwards. Will he have any issues once he has recovered? It would most likely be a full amputation (up to the urethra) so poor little man would have nothing left.
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 04:20 AM
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Love this picture! It truly shows how they needed together time. Still praying for Simba (and you Brandi) ever day! You might want to talk to Connie about penis amputations, she's been there, done that.
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 08:18 AM
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
[Re: DCMuffin]
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04/25/11 10:30 AM
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I dropped Simba off with the vet this morning. Hopefully the vets will be able to figure out what to do for Simba. He did ok last night. He hasn't peed yet this morning. I'm hoping he will do it for the vet. I'll give an update as soon as I hear something!
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 12:08 PM
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Love the pictures, thank you for showing them. You can tell they're a very sweet family and really care about each other.
Owned by:My Loving Boyfriend <3 1 Ancient Cat - Simba 2 Little Suggies Winter and Luna
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 01:34 PM
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I got a call from the vet. He spoke to Dr.Fronefield and they have decided that it's best to go ahead and take the stitch out. They said that there is nothing more they can do to save his penis. They have done everything they could and there is no way to reconstruct the frenulum that has been destroyed. Dr.Pat said that if he prolapses again that they will amputate. He is pretty sure he will end up prolapsing again since he no longer has the frenulum to hold it inside. He said it's just a matter of when it will happen. It's a wait and see now. Keeping the stitch in will only cause more trauma now. They still don't know what kind of permanent damage has been done, like if any nerves were cut etc. We just have to take it one day at a time. He did say that a lot of the swelling had gone down when he examined it when he had him asleep today. I have to keep giving him the antibiotics and also give him the pain medicines to try to keep him comfortable. He told me if I don't hear from him by 5pm then to come pick him up and he can spend the night with me again. If he prolapses before then or something happens he will call me immediately. Keep Simba in your thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 02:17 PM
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Keeping all of you in our prayers, that poor poor baby. Thank you for the update Brandi.
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 02:39 PM
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Brandi have you gotten any responses on what happens, etc if they do amputate? That would be great info to go along with Simba's poor saga. I have learned alot about prolapse that I didn't know before just from what happened to him.
Debra Two sons in the U.S. Army Slaves to: Mikki, Loki & Thor dogs: Morgan & Isabella Bunnies Bob & TMan RIP Wellington, Minnie & Dazzle bunny, Willow July 6 2013, Squirtle 7-24-09, Maggie May 12-14-10 Licensed wildlife rehabilitator - Cottontail Rabbits & Squirrels
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 05:42 PM
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Oh... such sad news! I was really hoping it was all going to be ok! or as ok as it could be... But, at one point, I wasnt even sure he was going to pull through so I guess its still good! Its really a good thing I dont live in FL anymore b/c I dont know that I could contain myself with that other vet! I hope you get her license and all shes (not) worth! Ok, back to being civil. Sending loads of love and hugs though I know we dont even know each other this whole thing has just cut me up!! My daughter now just comes out and asks, "Oh are you reading about Simba again?" because of course I am crying. I am so happy that he is still with us and that you have each other!
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 05:48 PM
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Brandi is on her way to get Mr. Monster Pom as we speak. She's been so lucky to be able to cuddle and love on him in the evenings. I told her that she should just think about it as "I'm taking Simba to daycare now" when he goes to the vet. LOL He's been all curled up and happy in a bonding pouch on Brandi, which has made it easier because he had apparently chewed up his other pouches at the beginning when he was in such pain. Poor sweetie. I am so happy that he is still with us and that you have each other!
Brandi and I are friends. My Bug and Teeka came from her, as well, so I have been lucky enough to meet and get to know her over the last year. The relationship she has with her gliders is wonderful and they are SO lucky to have such a great mommy. I've seen firsthand the relationship she has with them and it's quite a sight. The last few months have been a struggle for Brandi, to say the least, and this is the last thing she needed in her already hectic life. But, she's handling it like a champ, as is Simba, and they WILL get through it. As Brandi's friend, I'd like to say thank you - to all of you that are thinking of her and Simba and sending all the wonderful thoughts their way. Not a word or thought goes unnoticed.
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 06:44 PM
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Aimee - "Mr Monster Pom"- ha ha! Brandi, although I don't know you, I hope some day we get to meet. You are obviously a strong, loving woman who Simba, and the rest of the family, are very lucky to have as a Mom! I appreciate your courage in sharing your struggle with all of us so that we may learn. You must be so exhausted! Loving and healing thoughts continue to you and Simba! PS- The "family reunion" pics you posted are absolutely beautiful!
Darby ~ Lucky to have rescued all of my "silly goosies" and my kitties Jani Rose and Artie-Choke
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 06:47 PM
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we are all using the word prolapse as a pretty general term, each body part when it prolapses actually have their own symptoms.. example: prolapsed penis, just means the penis is hanging out.. in this case it is actually the penis shaft which is prolapsed due to the loss of the frenulum. if you go back to the first couple of pics that were posted.. the penis itself was "prolapsed, but the frenulum was still attached. it wasn't until later that we noticed what looked similar to foreskin.. that is when it was determined by the vet that the frenulum was not attached.. so now we have a prolapse of the penis shaft (inner sheath, that is supposed to be inside of the cloaca..) a prolapse of the cloaca is where the inside is on the outside which is commonly seen, and it isn't usually a big issue since when they relieve themselves it is often sticking out a bit..
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 07:24 PM
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I'm telling you what, Brandi..... That pic of Simba and Izzy snuggled together brought TEARS to my eyes....and they're TEARS OF JOY might I add! I've seen some definitions of true love, but that one took the whole cake AND the plate it was sitting on!!! sounds to me like: a) a certain vet needs to be black-listed by EVERY ANIMAL OWNER in Florida....and b) somebody needs to oil up Ol' Faithful (my loving name for my sewing machine ) and do a little more stitchin' magic. Simba is a bit of a distance from being out of the woods....which breaks my heart....but....I can help a little, and I'll be glad to do that!
Minkasmom (Papillon Kisses) Slave to: 25 gliders,4 cats, and ONE husband (can't handle two, lol!) Remembering all my lost loves
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 09:24 PM
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Thanks so much for sharing the picture of Simba and Nala and Izzy...That is truly a picture of what "love" is. Still praying really hard for your little boy!
Sharon Mom to: Zeva & Zoey Cooper- Our wonderful Bichon! Daughters, Lauren & Jennifer(all grown up) Hubby & best friend, Paul
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/25/11 11:22 PM
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I am so highly impressed with you and your gliders! Those pictures~ heartwarming. I continue to pray and think about y'all.
~~Chrystal~~ My beautiful pair~ Zinger (aka:Evan) Karma (aka:Ivy) Thor 12/24/10 Twinkie 11/26/11
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Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part Two
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04/26/11 02:44 AM
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I just want to thank everyone again for helping us out so much. The ones that have helped out with some of Simba's vet bills will always hold a special place in my heart. You don't realize how much every penny has helped. I have been worried sick about how I will find a way to pay for all of this. Especially if he ends up with the amputation. Ya'll have helped ease some of that burden. I really appreciate it! I also appreciate all of the support and kind words everyone has given throughout this. It has meant so much to me. I really don't know how I would do this without ya'll! I have been so stressed out and I am so exhausted from only getting about 2 hours of sleep a night since this started. Just being able to talk to the glider community has helped me a lot. I have Simba home for now. I have to call the vet in the morning to give him an update on how he did overnight. I have to keep giving him the Batryl and Metacam and try to get him to eat well. He still isn't eating like he normally does. He's eating slightly better now but not well enough. The vet told me no more visitations with his family. He said if he hasn't prolapsed after a week then we will talk about it. But he is still pretty sure he's going to prolapse again. Last time he did it within 48 hours of removing the stitch. All it could take is for him to strain to poop or get an erection. That's why he wants Simba to stay away from his wife. He said if he continues to prolapse he can die. That was the first time I had heard my vet say the "D" word to me so I am taking it very seriously. As heartbreaking as it is there will be no more visitation until Simba is better. I am concerned about Nala and Izzy getting depressed and not wanting to eat as well. But I have to listen to what Dr.Pat and Dr.Fronefield advise. I just want Simba to get through all of this and everything be back to normal, or as close to normal as it can be. I will give another update soon. I'm going to try to get a little sleep. I just put Simba in his incubator. I need to try to sleep while I can. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers!
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