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Re: Color and Genetics? [Re: B3N] #1166259
08/25/11 11:17 PM
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Ooooh okay, see with snakes all regulars have the recessive gene for albino. So I was like okay ever 25% of snakes hatched have the chance of being albino or whatever hte glider equivalent is of them. I have no desire to really be a breeder by any means but I was just curious, what you could get lol. Black Beauties are lovely though, I would love to have one some day. Or an albino omg little polar bear face <3

Re: Color and Genetics? [Re: B3N] #1166274
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Yeah breeding is a very hard job,i have been working with gliders for 6 years and just now got my first breeding pair just for hobby.Its really hard to learn everythang about the genes so i believe ill stick with my 100& lue het pair one wfb and the other cin.


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Re: Color and Genetics? [Re: jen102375] #1166409
08/26/11 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: jen102375
Actually Tracy, It has been proven recently by a couple different breeders that the indeed they can carry both. One has a plat/ lue het paired with a lue and they have gotten platinums and lues from the pair. Now the Plat has to have the lue het in order to get lues. Or if it didn't have the lue het then they would get Platinum and no lues. I would not be breeding if I didn't feel comfortable enough with my knowledge for breeding colored gliders.

Jen, I meant no disrespect at all! hug2 I would like to know who has proven hets can carry both the plat and the leu gene. There is no doubt in my mind you know what you are doing. agree In this thread maybe you were just talking about an actual platinum that is het for leu paired with a leu making both plat and leu joeys. I agree that is possible but there isn't a leu that carries the plat gene.
I still contend that both gliders have to carry the leu gene in order to get a leu. The plat works with the leu gene but I haven't heard of a plat het (who doesn't carry the leu gene) paired with a leu producing a leu. I am pretty sure Benjamin wants a leu more than he wants a platinum from what he has said, I could definitely be wrong!

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Re: Color and Genetics? [Re: B3N] #1166507
08/26/11 03:59 PM
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so jen by your example with the parents producing both plats and leus wouldnt that mean that the plat. gene
is not recessive?
back on page 1 they were saying the leu, plat. and creamino
were recessive and both parents had to have the gene to
produce, also everyone has been saying that the glider cannot have both the leu and plat gene.
by what you have said this theory is not correct, this is
very interesting.

regards,
nancy in detroit


regards,
nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
Re: Color and Genetics? [Re: B3N] #1166818
08/27/11 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: B3N
Most people, from what I've gathered, breed Leus to 100% or lower Leu Hets, so what I'm doing is going one step further to lower COI's and inbreeding risks by taking 2 standard greys that happen to be 100% Leu Hets.


Two grays that are 100% Leu hets is exactly like breeding 2 leus. You aren't lowering any COI's or out-breeding whatsoever.


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Re: Color and Genetics? [Re: B3N] #1166829
08/27/11 04:40 PM
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Alden,

My apologies for my ignorance. I naturally assumed since that is what I was told.


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Re: Color and Genetics? [Re: ValkyrieMome] #1166842
08/27/11 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: ValkyrieMome
Originally Posted By: B3N
Most people, from what I've gathered, breed Leus to 100% or lower Leu Hets, so what I'm doing is going one step further to lower COI's and inbreeding risks by taking 2 standard greys that happen to be 100% Leu Hets.


Two grays that are 100% Leu hets is exactly like breeding 2 leus. You aren't lowering any COI's or out-breeding whatsoever.


You can breed them out by going this route if the leu parents of both hets were paired with gliders with zero or little leu lineage.


Allie
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