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HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey #466789
02/01/08 02:13 AM
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Kimberly1979 Offline OP
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O.K. Gang I am the new grandma. Joeys came OOP Jan 30th! Everythign was going good until after 3pm this afternoon! I took the joeys out to show my brother they were out about 4 mins with me. I put them back in and since then i have checked on the whole family every few hours and every time the smallest joey has not been nursing like his slightly bigger brother. Well tonight about a half hour ago i took the father out and left Sassy to her two new ons and the one attaches but she keeps pushing away the smallest boy. he tries to find a way to a teet and she gets up and moves or pushes him away with her feet. So now he is wanding around with no love or teet. Now i tried to force back into pouch but with just myself I don;t really have the means or man power to do it. Now the smallest is very active and all but what can i do to get the mom to except him back? I am making up a batch of emergency joey stuff in case I need to start feeding him. Right now i am going to give them some alone time and check on him against in about an hour... if I see now change should i go ahead and start feeding him myself? I need some fast responce please!


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Kimberly1979] #466795
02/01/08 02:19 AM
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Emergency Instructions for a Rejected Joey
You need to get some food into this joey ASAP so that it doesn't get dehydrated and die.
The best way to do this is with Pedialyte and Esbilac Puppy Formula (if you don't have the rest of the ingredients on hand)... Go to the store and buy them right away. Do NOT delay! Mix them together 50/50 and offer them to the joey with an eyedropper, small pet bottle (made for kittens) or a needleless syringe. Place a drop on the joey's lips and the joey should start to lap it up. Continue placing drops on his lips until he won't take any more. Repeat trying to feed him every 1/2 hour until he is full. (Check his belly as per my webpage to see if he's full.) Once full, you can then start feeding him every 2-4 hours as needed.
You will need to make sure the joey is warm before attempting to feed it. You can do this by heating a fleece blanket in the microwave for about 15-20 seconds. Make sure it is not too hot, then wrap the joey up in it & put the wrapped joey inside your shirt next to your heart. Check him every 5 minutes or so and make sure he is staying warm.

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: LSardou] #466797
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Here is a link to Suzsugarglider's Web site

also here are her phone numbers, please don't hesitate to call her if you need to, she will be more than happy to help!
Phone numbers:
home 440-953-0904
toll-free (home) 866-399-4476
cell 440-520-4799
work 440-846-2665 (usually on M & Th, from 9 - 2)


Sending lots of prayers....Good Luck

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: LSardou] #466801
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prayers for you and your little ones... i hope things go well for you... from what i've learned here at GC, you're on the right track asking questions and you've been given great advise and referral! keep those numbers handy and use them!

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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: LSardou] #466803
02/01/08 02:35 AM
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i bought the rescure joey kit but how do i make th formula... i got the booster milk poweder and gilderade and i got pedialyte... how do i mix a batch?


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Kimberly1979] #466810
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Joey Formula


Mix the following ingredients together until very smooth:


1 Tbsp. Gliderade® (already liquefied with water or Pedialyte® )

1 Tbsp. Brisky’s Booster Milk (-or- Wambaroo® Possum Milk Replacer -or- puppy formula) already liquefied with water or Pedialyte®

1 tsp.* dry baby cereal

*This amount is for a “newborn” joey.

For a Premature joey, eliminate the cereal entirely.

For a 2 - 4 weeks o.o.p. joey, increase the baby cereal to 1 1/2 tsp.

For a 4 - 6 weeks o.o.p. joey, increase the baby cereal to 2 tsp.

For a 6 - 8 weeks o.o.p. joey, increase the baby cereal to 1 Tbsp.



Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: LSardou] #466813
02/01/08 03:12 AM
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WHAT do they mean by 1 part whatever to 5 parts water does that mean for every 1 Tblesppoon powder must have 5 tablespoons water?


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Kimberly1979] #466816
02/01/08 03:41 AM
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OK i figured it out and i got some awesome news... I did try to feed him... he did take maybe 5 or 6 drops but that was the end of it he did not want no more... And yes he was very nice and warm the whole time he was with me.

Best news was I put him back in with Mom and she welcomed him back with a nice toung bath! I am taking this as a good sign.

I want to thank u all who responded in such a timely manner and excused all my miss typing lol!

I owe u all so much!


Now Proud Owner Of 1 male Sugar Glider NicNic <Nicolus> 5yrs old
Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Kimberly1979] #466820
02/01/08 05:14 AM
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never mind she cleaned him then right back to ignoring him


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Kimberly1979] #466821
02/01/08 05:28 AM
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You'll probably need to keep feeding him at least every hour then. Make sure the milk replacement is warm. Fill the syring with the milk and put it in a warm cup of water for a few min. Maybe that will help the little guy to eat.

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Lynsie] #466824
02/01/08 05:59 AM
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good idea I am going to re try feeding him in an hour and try the warm stuff this time... if this is a no go then I can only pray.... this is so heart breaking.


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Kimberly1979] #466852
02/01/08 08:07 AM
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You've already gotten some great advice but I just want to add a little bit to it...
You should try supplement feeding the stronger joey while leaving the weaker joey with the mother. Sometimes, not having the stronger one in the nesting area to interfere will allow the weaker joey to be able to nurse from the mother. You definitely need to try this as the mother's milk will be better for the weaker joey. If it doesn't work, then go back to supplement feeding the weaker joey instead.
If you do have to supplement feed the weaker joey:
At first, try feeding him every hour or so - if you go to feed him and he's nursing from the mother then skip that feeding. As he gains strength, you may find the mother more willing to feed him more often and may be able to cut back on how often you try to feed him.
It is possible that the mother doesn't have enough milk for both joeys. When that happens, she will choose the stronger of the two and will concentrate her attentions on allowing the stronger one to feed (remember biology class and the "Survival of the Fittest" theory). Therefore, it would be a good idea to mix up some of the Booster Milk and add it to the regular offerings of food in the cage at night. It will help her be able to produce more milk for the joeys.


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: sugarglidersuz] #466858
02/01/08 08:52 AM
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to let u all know the little guy is not doing well... hr was refusing to take the suppliment i offered in many ways... i have been up all night ... he finally took some about 20 mins ago but i can tell by his body he is dehyrating so i am calling my vet cause she opens in 10 mins. i am also taking a print out about the dehydration and taking the stuff for the suppliment feeding... incase the vet will take the joey on for few days... i am dying of no sleep and i live on my own... i hope we make it.


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Kimberly1979] #466863
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Sending you lots of hugs and prayers....please keep us posted. hug2

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: LSardou] #466890
02/01/08 10:49 AM
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Sad news all! Joey has passed away! We got ab out 5 mins to the vet and he passed away in my hands. So please keep him in ur thoughts today!


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: Kimberly1979] #466896
02/01/08 11:01 AM
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i am sorry to hear about your little joey.

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: ] #466898
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hug2 I am so sorry! He knew that you loved him, and did everything that you could to help. Sending you lots of hugs and prayers....Godspeed sweet little angel gangel

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: LSardou] #466937
02/01/08 12:32 PM
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hug2 I am so sorry for you and your little joey - I know you tried your best for him.


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: CSteele] #466958
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cry hug2 cry

Lots of love to you and the others.

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: ] #467003
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frown I'm sorry to hear that the joey passed, you are in my thougths.

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: ] #467051
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Kimberly,

I am so sorry to hear that the joey did not make it. You tried your best and you did well. Here are many hugs sent your way. hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2


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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: ] #467099
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oh i am so sorry! you did everything that you could. {{{hugs}}} please take care and love on the other suggies, that will help.

rho

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: ] #467318
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Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: sugarlope] #469658
02/05/08 02:53 AM
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that made me sad to read the whole thread and have it end that way! you did good though smile

what would the reason be for the mother rejecting the joey? could he have been sick and she knew something was wrong with him?

Re: HELP MPOM is ignoring OOP Joey [Re: ] #470298
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Mother may not have had enough milk to support two joeys.

My suggestion is to purchase one of those digital food scales at WalMart or from a Pharmacy to monitor the remaining joey with to be sure he is gaining weight. A good Digital Scale is about $30.

Babies should gain between 4 and 6 grams per week. If baby begins to loose weight.. then suggest supplemting him two to three times within a 24 hour period for about three weeks or so.

Good Luck with the remainig little one. heart


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