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Rejecting! HELP!!! #54997
08/20/05 08:26 AM
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I woke up to something I dreaded this morning. Mom was running in the wheel, and dad was in the pouch with a joey, and the other joey was in the other pouch. I Immediately took him and put him in the pouch with dad and the other joey. He was kinda cold, but he was crabbing and making noise, so he was ok. I'm definitely watching for signs of rejection now, but I'm so scared because I have no idea what to do if they do reject him. They're all in the pouch together right now. I was planning on going back to sleep for a couple hours, but now I'm going to be staying up and making sure they don't move him somewhere else or move to the other pouch and leave him where he is. I have no idea what to do if they do reject him. I've read the "How to hand feed a joey" thing and I should have held him up to a light to see if he'd been fed, but for some stupid reason I didn't and I don't want to go drag him away from mom and dad and encourage them to be without him. I'll be absolutely devastated if this little guy doesn't make it. Anyone have any advice for a very nervous glider grandma? Now I'm going to go find the post where someone posted the link to a rejected joey nursery. God forbid I need it, but just in case.

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Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #54998
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OK this is serious. They all just moved to the other pouch and left this little guy alone. I'm about to get showered and go to Walmart and get the stuff to make a nursery. I don't have a French Cather size #5. What can I use in place of that?

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #54999
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I'm not sure how tiny a #5 catheter is, but maybe you could pick up a little medicine dropper thing and a small baster thing and one of those thing that people clean babies' noses out with. Somebody who knows will be through soon and can tell you if you can use them and which one, but then you'd have them...........

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55000
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call your vet or pharmasist and ask if they have any or now where to get... good luck! Keep us updated. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55001
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OOOH! Pharmacy is a great idea!

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55002
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Hi,
I am sorry you may be having problems with your glider family. Can you tell me if there have been any other signs of rejection? I am working on a rejected joey survay and this is one of the questions. I am sending you my number and will also tell you that MaryH is very experieced in rejection and will be more than willing to help you. I use a TB syringe or a fine point eyedropper to feed the rejected ones here. Please keep us updated.
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Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55003
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OK thanks for the tries y'all, but it's too late. I think he was too dehydrated and too hungry and too cold for too long. He didn't make it. I noticed yesterday that Bonnie only had one joey nursing at any given time, but since they're so small, I couldn't tell if it was the same one every time. I know now that it was. Putting 2 and 2 together now, I don't think he'd been fed properly since they came OOP yesterday morning. He died just a few minutes ago. Thanks again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55004
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />
I am so sorry!
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Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55005
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I'm sorry, I know how excited you were about these guys.

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55006
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I'm sorry <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55007
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Thanks everyone. In a way, if it had to happen, I'm glad it happened the way it did. He died with me holding him trying to save him instead of alone in the other pouch and cold. Also, there is a bit of blood on his snout, so I think they got a little aggressive toward him. I think if I had left him in there, Bonnie and Angus probably would have done worse than nip his nose. At least this way he died peacefully and warm rather than alone and cold. I hadn't even come up with a name for the poor little guy yet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55008
08/20/05 09:43 AM
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I know how you feel I had the samething happen to me... Only i went in and the baby was dead already.. and half gone.. Anita my sweet friend is trying to help me save the other one.. I went over to see my little boy and took my sweet angel with me and she took her from there because i was doing so good so she is trying to save her for me we did name her though I named her Hope...


In a realtionship with the man i am going to marry I am in Cuero Texas with 3 kids. I am the mother of 4 kids and the soon to be step mother of 5 more. I have only one set of gliders.
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Sandra 16,Alex 12, Juanita 7 and Kathy 4
Whitney 13, Taylor 11, Charity 9 Brent 10 and Austin 5
Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55009
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> I'm so glad you could be there with your little baby <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/gliderangel.gif" alt="" /> I hope that gives you some peace. sending hugs... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55010
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Thanks for moving this. Wow. I never expected to be in the Real Stories forum so soon. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rejecting! HELP!!! [Re: ] #55011
08/20/05 11:08 AM
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Brittany, I am so sorry! You are right, at least he was with you and not alone. (((((HUGS)))))


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NEED HELP NOW #55060
08/20/05 09:59 PM
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I had a rejected joey that died this morning. I need help NOW in case the second one is rejected as well.

I have Wombaroo. If the joey is rejected, can I mix some and feed him this or do I need to make up something special? I can make up a batch of regular (all I have is Judie's) BML if I need to. Please I need help. I'm scared to death that this other baby isn't being fed. I already lost one baby today. I don't want to lose him as well.

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Re: NEED HELP NOW [Re: ] #55061
08/20/05 11:09 PM
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People usually recommend making up baby BML (which is BML without the wheatgerm in it) and supplement baby with that using a #5 cat.
Holding baby up to the light will allow you to see if baby has any food in its belly, which you already know about doing. I have never had experience in this area but I am sure someone who is better qualified to give advice will be along soon.


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Re: NEED HELP NOW [Re: ] #55062
08/20/05 11:22 PM
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I think it may be too late. I was mixing up some Wombaroo because it was all I had time for and I think he's about to die. He's not moving at all. I have him in my bra and a heating pad over my shirt to try and warm him up. I can't handle this. I don't know what to do. I'm just trying to warm him right now.

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OK this one needs to be moved to Real Stories as well. He's gone. I tried warming him up and I tried getting him to feed, but he just didn't make it. I can't believe this.

Re: NEED HELP NOW [Re: ] #55064
08/21/05 01:10 AM
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I am so sorry.....


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Re: NEED HELP NOW [Re: ] #55065
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I'm sorry, too. Were these their first? If so they will probably do just fine next time, but that's not much consolation now.
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I'm so sorry. I just lost a set of joeys last week... If you want to talk, feel free to PM me.

Re: NEED HELP NOW [Re: ] #55067
08/21/05 10:34 AM
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> I am so sorry! I wish I could make it better for you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> It will get better.


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Re: NEED HELP NOW [Re: ] #55068
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Yes this was their first set of joeys. And on top of that, they are very young for having babies. They are only 8 months old. However, there will not be more babies. Angus is neutered now. I've come to terms with it. It's still tough, but I understand why it happened and that there was more than likely nothing I could have done. Thanks for all the kind words. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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I am SO sorry. I know how excited you were about these joeys from your other posts. Prayers are with you today!
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