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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: Janie] #573369
06/19/08 05:47 PM
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ive got an appointment in two hours clap

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #573499
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wow, what a waste of time THAT was.

ive never even heard him crabbing until today and he made a big stink at the vets office because they took him into a back room.

the vet said she couldnt even look at him unless he was sedated but she gave me some eye drops and thought it looked like he had a growth on his chest.

just looks swollen to me dunno and it'll cost me a small fortune to have him neutered...

ugh, puppies are much less high maintenance than this haha

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #573514
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Is your vet experienced in sugar gliders? I can hold my most difficult glider in one hand and clip nails, medicate or inspect with the other, without being bitten. My vet does almost as well as I do. ;-) It concerns me that she gave you eye drops without an exam or culture and that all she said about his chest was that it was a growth. She didn't want to biopsy it? I'm sorry, but your vet would worry me if she were mine.


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: suggiemom1980] #573529
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supposedly she has some of her own...she wanted to examine his chest when they sedate him for neutering, but idk. i wasnt impressed with her.
i almost want to try and hold him still to prove to myself that it isnt as difficult as she makes it out to be haha

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #573541
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Have you checked out the Glider vets link? Perhaps you can see a more knowledgeable vet close to you. Where are you located?


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: Janie] #573548
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My husband and I had 5 suggies gave to us 2 weks ago.A mated pair w/ baby in pouch,a joey and an older male;and he's doing the exact same thing 2 my husband we're just riding it out. But my husband has handled all kinds of different animals so he's used to being bit. U R not alone!!

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: LSardou] #573571
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Originally Posted By: LSardou
You've been given some excellent advice! Just take one day at a time and he will soon start to calm down and relax once he feels trusting towards you.
As for his eye, I strongly suggest that you have it looked at by a vet ASAP....if he did injure it, he will need to be put on some antibiotics otherwise it will get worse.


I was hoping to hear that your little fella would have had his eye looked at by now.
I'm sorry that it has become worse.
Here is a link to our Vet Database If you need help with locating a vet, please let us know. We will help in anyway that we can.
It's vital that you have him looked at ASAP. What your describing sounds serious and if it is not treated he could possibly wind up loosing his eye.

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: LSardou] #573660
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My little shadow is VERY high strung and hard to handle by anyone other than myself and my hubby.... my vet still has NO problem at all holding him ,,, he screams and fails his little front legs,, makes me feel sooooo bad... but my vet easily got a good look at his chest scent gland....

makes me agree with everyone else,,, look and see if you can find a better vet,,, especially when considering the neutering as well,,,,, they are such tiny little things ...they deserve the very best

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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: Janie] #573664
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Linda already gave you the link to the vet database, but here's the link to the page specific to Phoenix. Call and ask them how they do their exams and make sure they do the fecal float/smear. I would call today and try to get him seen. I know it's costly, especially after the last vet, but I feel it's important to have him see ASAP. Make sure to take in the eye drops the other vet gave you so they know what's been given to him.

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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: thefotokat] #573791
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My boy Clyde gets a swollen chest gland once in a while too, when he goes through his "must mark everything and everyone constantly" phases. The first time I saw it I got worried, but a day or two later it was gone. It came back a few weeks later and was gone again. Then I started noticing it only happens when he and Darcia are mating, or when their joeys first come out of pouch. Clyde has always been an excellent daddy (2 sets of twins, and two singles so far). During these times he has to mark everything, and constantly rubs his chest on anything he gets near. I think it's a territorial thing and he goes overboard with it when Darcia's in heat, or when they have new joeys. He just wants to be sure everything smells like him.

His son Junior does the same thing, but he's only gone overboard a couple times that I know of, where his chest gland was irritated from it.

Of course its still a good idea to have a knowledgeable vet look at him, but it sounds like his over-marking could be what is causing his gland to swell up.


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: BKaylor74] #573803
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They very first time a long time ago, that I took a suggies to a vet, he kin dof scruffed her like a cat, he was holding her in two fingers around like her neck sort of. Now this is the most passive suggie I have EVER seen, and she drew blood on him, and I wanted to smack him so hard. I praised her when we got in the car for biting him. I never went back to him. How do you scruff a suggie you know I mean seriously, blah, and he does exotics haha riiiiiight.


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: Yaniah] #573808
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I hope you can afford to go to another vet, hon. She might have suggies of her own, but she obviously doesn't know what she's doing when it comes to handling them...


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: Yaniah] #573973
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Originally Posted By: Yaniah
They very first time a long time ago, that I took a suggies to a vet, he kin dof scruffed her like a cat, he was holding her in two fingers around like her neck sort of. Now this is the most passive suggie I have EVER seen, and she drew blood on him, and I wanted to smack him so hard. I praised her when we got in the car for biting him. I never went back to him. How do you scruff a suggie you know I mean seriously, blah, and he does exotics haha riiiiiight.


yeah thats what she did :/ help his neck with her forefinger and thumb. obviously they dont like it, but i understood since she was trying to get a visible view of his chest gland. he crabbed and bit, but the funny part is...i tried it when we got home and he didnt bite at all! just wriggled a bit and gave me the "why are you doing this to me? i thought you loved me?" look haha

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #574002
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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #574009
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The links aren't working.

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: thefotokat] #574029
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Originally Posted By: thefotokat
The links aren't working.


they should be working now. sorry ohwell

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #574031
06/20/08 07:48 PM
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I would recommend getting a second vet’s opinion .. I definitely think he needs to been seen by a vet based on these pics … !! I have to go through two vets .. the first one I did not like at all and she was supposed to be the ‘expert’ in this area …


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: Xglider] #574062
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He doesn't look great in those pics...in fact, the second one with his chest gland REALLY concerns me...I have never seen anything like that...it almost looks open around his gland?!? If that was my glider I would be extremely worried, and I'd be getting him into an experienced vet ASAP.

Definitely go to a 2nd vet with more experience. Glider-experienced vets can be hard to find, but save you money in the long run because you don't end up paying more money for medications, visits, and possibly surgeries you don't need.

I enthusiastically recommend the burrito wrap for restraining gliders at the vets. I take their pouch or a piece of fleece and just hold them in that like a little burrito, and try to keep my fingers away from their business end (the end with the teeth), and while I hold them the vet pulls this out and that out and looks at whatever is necessary. It keeps the biting to a minimum. Sometimes I'll give them a mealie to munch on too so they're less upset. Usually you have to hold pretty firmly, but be careful you aren't squishing them tounge Hope this helps.

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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #574065
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ooooohhh...that boy does not look good shakehead ...where are you located? perhaps someone can recommend a better vet close to you...


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: hipbchik] #574085
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I noticed in the pictures the cage is not coated. Could that be agravaiting the scent glands?



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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: hipbchik] #574087
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im in arizona...oh, he looks awful doesnt he? worried

he never seemed to look to terrible when i took him out (probably because im new) but the more i look at all the pictures of your healthy little gliders, the worse he looks to me.

as for his gland looking open, its not..just very swollen with some dirty looking buildup around it.

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #574107
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Yeah! I would definitely get him checked out by a vet.

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #574145
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Please keep us posted and if there is anything we can do please let us know ... hug2


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: Xglider] #574151
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I didn't even notice the cage until you said something about it dranger1108...I wonder if that does have something to do with it.

Don't beat yourself up mlwoo103, you said it yourself, you're new & didn't realize anything was wrong. Once you got here and realized things were bad you started looking for help. Getting that little guy to the vet is sooooooo important!! The one worst thing about a sick glider is they hide their illness as long as possible, so once we start seeing it a vet visit is imperative.

ANYBODY in Arizona have a vet reference?? The vet seen previously apparently isn't very knowledgeable...

Please keep us posted.


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: hipbchik] #574153
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Incase you missed the link to Phoenix vets earlier, here it is again...
http://www.glidercentral.net/links/pages...enix/index.html


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: dranger1108] #574290
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Originally Posted By: dranger1108
I noticed in the pictures the cage is not coated. Could that be agravaiting the scent glands?


thanks everyone. but no, the cage is coated. it's just coated in silver so it looks like its not

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #574352
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Hi mlwoo103! wave

I sent you a PM...click on the flashing envelope up near the top of the page to access it.


Have you been groomed today?
Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: desertmommy] #575517
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back from another vet trip. thanks to the two of you that recommended valley west veterinary clinic. they were very knowledgeable. from what it seems, his problems are due to his previous poor diet. i got some meds. haha if he had it his way he'd take the whole bottle. he loves the cherry flavor. grin
ive been feeding him a base pellet mix with mealies and vitamin sprinkled fruits and veggies, but she told me i really ought to get him on a strict diet. she recommended bml or the diet on thepetglider.com. what do you guys recommend i use?

Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: ] #575524
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I am so glad you found another vet!

as for diet ... both are proven diets .. i have used BML and planning to switch to HPW .. what ever diet you pick .. pick one and stick to it!! smile


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Re: help! new suggie owner about to throw in the t [Re: Xglider] #575535
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Aww! The poor little guy. Glad you took him to the vets. :3

Ya, I'd strongly reccomend getting a new cage. That thing looks TINY to begin with. frown

I use the HPW diet here but, take a look at some of the proven diets here and pick one that works for you. Personally, I like the Pet Glider, BML, and HPW diets the most.


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