The only person that I have seen pair mosaic to mosaic was helen and that is where the sterility in the mosaics came from.

Was the sterilty due to Mosaic/Mosaic, or were the two mosaics that were bred together related, therefore THAT being the cause??

Considering the sterility issues in the Helen Morano line of mosaics, I wouldn't think it would be a good idea to pair 2 gliders from that line together. Ever if the sterility has been 'bred out' of the gliders being paired, by pairing gliders with a sterile ancestor together, you are just upping the chances of reintroducing sterility. Also, I wouldn't want to pair gliders from non-sterile lines with sterile line gliders because you would be introducing sterility into healthy lines...

I have pulled all of my sterile line gliders from breeding and they are now pet only.

Hercules to Mother White?

At work again today and having majory internet problems/switching from one site to another. Anyhow, someone said they hadn't heard of mo/mo. When I was working on family tress I found this pair...

Hercules/mo to Mother White (or snow, I can't remember w/o switching back), and that line is not sterile.

I also saw another pairing of mos somehwere on there. Does anyone know anything about Hercules, I see there is no picture? Just wondering if this one is accurate.

I personally would not put a leu or leu het with a sterile line mosaic. I have one sterile mo, Astrid, her mom is a mo hand her dad is a leu. So I have made sure that she is not with any kind of leu het. There is no need to make more sterile lues. She has had 2 joeys, both have gone into non-breeding homes.

You have to look up Shakespeares line once you go to the link Alicia has posted above

The Mosaics from the sterile line...

the gene for the sterility is Sex Linked and is passed to the females via their mothers. Meaning the females are the carriers and they pass the sterility to their male offspring and the daughers then are carriers.

Only a very small percentage of the males are capable of reproducing. When this happens.. now a new line is able to produce fertile male offspring because the Male is not sterile and His daughters will not be carriers of the sex linked trait.

As to where the trait of the sex linked gene comes from.... it is not known.

One is not able to breed Mosaic to Mosaic if both are from the Sterile Line. Why????? Because all of the males are sterile.

Judie, even still, once the males from the sterile line are able to start producing, they come from a geneticly sterile background. Just because they can produce doesn't necessarily mean all the genetic info that causes the sterility in the first place has been bred out... I think breeding gliders out of that line is like waiting for a bomb to go off. Sooner or later, those genetic flaws are going to blow up in everybodies faces.

Quick question about sterile lines: if a female from a sterile produces a male and that boy then goes on to produce, does that make the female no longer sterile, or will her other boys possibly still be sterile?

Some females throw both sterile and non-sterile boys. So, sometimes, it's just luck of the draw. Also, some males may not be sterile, but they aren't able to produce as easily as a non-sterile line glider and may only have 1 or 2 offspring over their life time.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me!

It's so sad that there are sterile mosaic lines.

Then again, I guess it's a blessing to those who want them as pets because then they don't have to sacrifice and arm and a leg to own one!

Ok Alicia let me feel you in on Hercules....

Mother White produced Hercules. Helen then bred Hercules back to mother white and got Snow White. There was no more inbreeding with Snow white so that is why she is a producing line.

The reason there is sterility is because of severe inbreeding not because of breeding mo/mo.

Hercules never bred here at priscillas and is now living in a great home with Kevan who works here. She absolutely adores him!!!

If you want to see pics of him he is the one pictured as a calico. Although Priscilla later found out it was only staining.

Thanks Tyler. I didn't think mo/mo caused sterility, but I don't know. And it was obvious it didn't in this situation but since someone said they didn't know mo/mo to breed, I knew it had happened in the past.