My little princess is sick I brought Lidia home about a week ago and all seemed fine with her except this weird bald spot on her belly. She was eating great and acting perfectly normal. Last night I checked on her and she looked to have some swelling around her cloaca and she looked wet/ungroomed. I continued to watch her and noticed that she was grooming the area a lot and hissing. I stayed up all night keeping an eye on her to make sure she didn't SM. I wasn't sure what could have been wrong but I knew it was something. As soon as the vet opened this morning I rushed her in. She had diarhea right away and I had it rushed in for a fecal. The fecal showed that she had parasites. Forgive for not knowing what the classification is called, it started with an A and she said it was in the same family as hookworms and coccdia, so not good. I asked her to tell me exactly what it was, but she said it was just a class not an exact parasite. . .something like that. So I have her on two different meds in hopes that it clears up. She goes back on Monday for a checkup and on Wednesday I have a home visit and my vet will be checking on her then too. I feel so bad for my baby, you can just tell she is miserable. I had to seperate her from her mate Tokyo and completely sanitize everything today. My vet said that Tokyo should be in the clear since they have only been together for a week because this parasite takes longer than that to pass on, but I will be watching him closely. Please pray that my baby girl makes it through this with a quick recovery.

s and prayers headed your way!! Zaria's fecals today and last fri were both clear, so, fingers crossed. I'll have her checked again next week too, just in case..

i am so sorry that you both are going thru this.
but, i would get tokyo into the vet, also. you have no idea as to how long she's been sick. they hide it real well, until they can't anymore, because in the wild, the sick ones are killed. so, he may be sick also.
please do make sure that they are getting more stuff to drink because they can dehydrate real fast.
just sit back, relax, & close your eyes, & empty your thoughts,& BREATH. breath from deep within, so this way you can get calm. one of the most loving persons i have delt w/here, told me to do that, so i am telling you too, also.
i know you have got to be [censored] out, as i was, but if you stay that way, your babies will know that, & the healing time will drag longer.
she could loose some weight, to, on the meds, some do.
i know you will do a good job, you're already proving it now.
talk @ ya L8R
josefine

Sorry to hear about Lidia, Lynsie.
I will keep you both in my prayers. Hope she recovers soon.

Big hugs Lynsie!!

Karin

I'm so sorry to here about your baby! Prayers on the way!

Thanks guys!

Josefine, I assure you that I am doing everything as instructed by my vet. I do have experience with gliders and know how well they can hide an illness. Tokyo has only been with Lidia for one week, I know that for a fact and my vet said that should not have been enough time for him to get anything from her, BUT he is on close watch and my vet will see him on Monday and on Wednesday along with Lidia. I am upset that my baby is sick but I am not [censored] out, right now I just need well wishes for my baby.

Good news though. Seems like the meds are starting to take affect already. Lidia is looking a lot better and she had a solid stool just a bit ago.

I will keep you both in my thoughts. Get Well Soon Lidia.

I'm sorry Lynsie...I hope Lidia gets well quickly!!!

Oh Lynsie, I'm so sorry she's sick. Give her lots of extra chin scritches for me and let Tokyo know his girl will be healthy and back with him soon.

Lynsie, I hope she is on a full road to recovery.

Awwwww Lynsie, I'm soooo sorry. You should have called me. My thoughts and prayers are with you, Lidia, Tokyo and everyone else. I hope everything turns out okay. Please give both of them a big hug and kiss from me. Let my boy know his ex-mama loves and misses him very much!

Lynsie, my thoughts are with you and Lidia.

Aww Lynsie, I'm sorry to hear Lidia is sick I've dealt with parasitic infections before and it's not fun... I'm curious what meds your vet gave you to treat her. If you want to discuss meds and treatments, give me a call 419-615-5631

Lidia didn't eat anything last night I have her meds to her along with a little pedialyte this morning and I will be going to get some ensure after work. I weighed her and she hasn't lost any weight yet, so that's a releif. I just wish she would eat, it would make me feel so much better.

I am so sorry she is sick! I hope she gets well soon!

so sorry your baby is sick. I hope she will be okay. I want to stress for any newbies reading this that this is a reason why we alway stress to quarantine. Some illness takes a while to show up.

oh Lynsie- I'm so sorry. I hope she's feeling better soon.

I got her to take about 1cc of ensure but she still has diarhea. The vet said the diarhea is actually good though because it means that her body is trying to push the parasites out.

Poor little girl!!! I hope she feels better soon!!!!

Lynsie, you know you are in my thoughts and prayers.

Poor baby. Parasites are so difficult to deal with. I'm sorry this is happening to you.

How's she doing this evening? Sending you good thoughts!

She's still doing just okay. I got her to take 2 more cc's of ensure and I gave her a bath because she was really nasty and it made her perk up a lot. She's out in the cage now but doesn't seem interested in her food. She's still hissing when she poops and seems to be very tender down there.

Oh poor baby, Lidia! I know how upset you must be, Lynsie but you are an excellent suggie mom. She is in super excellent care! Sending you lots of prayers and positive thoughts that she gets better soon!

Lynsie,
Hope the medications will help Lidia get better soon. I'm sure all the TLC she is receiving from you, will help her a lot too.
Praying for you both.

Awwww, poor sweet baby. I wish I was there to give her some hugs and kisses. I know Momma will make her all better!

Little bit of an improvement, Lidia was drinking out of her water bottle tonight. It doesn't seem like much but I didn't think she was eating or drinking anything so I was really excited to see her drinking out of it. Now I at least know that she's getting ensure and water/pediatlyte.

Sorry to see you going through this Lynsie with any little one.Prayers and well wishes for a full recovery for your little one.And good to hear shes drinking some.

Wow! Now THAT'S an IMPROVEMENT!!!
Considering she wasn't consuming anything but ensure, that's a success. I'm very happy to hear the good news.
Keeping you both in my prayers.

Keeping your little one in my thoughts! I hope she makes a quick and full recovery, Tokyo must miss his girlie.

I just got off the phone with my vet and this is the info I got:

Most common parasite- strongyle- similar to the roundworm/hookworm family.

pre-patent period- I asked her about how long it would take for another glider to get it and she said about a month before it could show up. So, if everyone should get thier gliders tested again in about a month.

She said that it can not be transmitted to humans or other animals, it's usually per that species. It's contracted through the eggs in the feces of the gliders.

Hope that helps everyone.

Thanks for the update, Lynsie. I'm so glad to hear that she is doing better!

Thanks again for pointing out the importance of the second vet check after the 30 day quarantine!

Give Lidia one of her favorite treats for me when she feels better!

Good news!!! Lidia is eating!!! I am so excited!!!!!

Those are WONDERFUL NEWS!!!

Very happy to hear she is finally doing better.

That's great news Lynsie...congrats

She didn't eat anything solid but she did eat all her HPW so that is good. She is looking a bit better today also. My vet will see her again tomorrow.

Well it's been a rollercoaster so far. Up and down, up and down. When Lidia finished her meds and still 100% we started her on another round of meds, different round this time. After 2 days on the new meds she was looking worse. She had diarhea again and it was pretty bad. So we took her off of that and put her back on the smz tmp. She's been on that for 3 days now and is now showing a lot of improvement. For the past almost 2 weeks her belly has been soaked and today just a little part of it is wet looking and he poops are getting thicker by the day. Hopefully we will reach the top of this rollercoaster pretty soon and hopefully we can stay there. Here are a few pics that I snapped of her just a little bit ago:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c163/LuckyYouGliders/Lidia/DSC05159.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c163/LuckyYouGliders/Lidia/DSC05161.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c163/LuckyYouGliders/Lidia/DSC05165.jpg

I had another fecal run on her last Fri and I am waiting for the results. My vet should be calling me with them today.

Hugs for you and that sweetie baby - ya'll both hang in there - I just know she's going to turn the corner on this thing soon...

I agree with Cindy, she's going to get to feeling better soon, tell her we all said so!

Lynsie:
I'm so happy to hear that she is doing better!
She is so beautiful!!!

I'm praying that she might get well completely soon.
Thank you for the update.

Shes beautiful! Glad to hear shes starting to feel better

Awwww...give her hugs and kisses for me. Tokyo too. I hope she gets well soon!

Just wanted to see if there was an update for this little one?

Lidia has a yeast infection

I am so sorry to hear that - but I'm sure with the proper med's she'll come through this okay - best wishes and please keep us informed

Beezer

I couldn't find where the original post was so I'm not up to speed on what happened, but maybe the yeast infection is from antibiotics? would non-fat yogurt with live cultures be ok to give her?

Oh Lynsie and Lidia
So is the yeast infection new, or is it the actual issue all along??
I hope she gets better REAL soon!

Poor Lidia. I hope she recovers soon. Please do keep us updated on her progress, I'll be keeping her in my thoughts.

As I said in my other post, Lidia has been diagnosed with a yeast infection. Right now she is on a topical ointment but the problem with that is Lidia will lick it off. My vet is doing some research on oral meds and wanted to know if anyone else had ever treated a sugar glider with oral meds before?

Sending Lidia healing wishes....

Lynsie, when Grace had her yeast infection, the vet put her on Amoxicillian. I thought that was odd since it can cause yeast infections in humans...but it worked. We didn't use anything oral on the pouch itself.

Lynsie, I am so sorry about Lidia. At least you now know what she has, so it can be treated. Would an e-collar help to give the ointment a chance to work until your vet finds an oral med? Sending wishes for a speedy recovery for your little girl!

Im sorry to hear about the yeast infection, never having had one here I dont have much to offer except well wishes and good thoughts.

My suggestion is to have the vet culture the little girl's pouch. The results will give a list of meds that the yeast is sensitive to.

Also, your vet could do a phone consultation with Dr. Teresa Bradley DVM in Belton, MO.

She did swab the pouch but all the medications that came up were topical's. She has an oral she wants to try but since Lidia's immune system is weakend, she is so tiny (40g), and she's been on medication for almost 2 weeks now we want to make sure it's not going to be too hard on her liver first. She also wants to make sure that it's okay for a sugar glider.

Lynsie, I havent had to deal with any yeast infections here either, but am also offering many hugs and well wishes for Lidia.

Lynsie.. have your vet call Dr. Bradley.

I really am sorry you little one is really having a difficult time.

I do know my vet told me when applying ointments to a glider to hold the glider for ten minutes or so once it is applied so it can be absorbed into the skin as the glider will lick it off immediately.

At this point I can't really say for sure if Lidia is getting better or what. She isn't getting worse though. She did eat some of her corn and peas last night, seems to be the only solid thing she will eat. Before I could kinda tell if she was getting better by how wet her tummy looked but since I am now putting ointment on her tummy, I really can't tell. Only time will tell right now.

Thanks for keeping us updated on her, Lynsie. You are both still in my thoughts, I hope she starts to show signs of improvement soon.

Thank you for the update Lynsie....we are all pulling for her to get better SOON.

Karin

Poor lil girl! No wonder she feels rotten. Yeast infections are terribly uncomfortable even if you aren't taking meds for something else. Hope she continues to improve!!!

I hope that time is good to you both! Lynsie, what can you do for her yeast infection?

More good news!! Lidia has had solid poo [censored] in with Tokyo.

Wow, that only shows up with the 1st 7 words, [censored], and then the last 1 words

I'm so glad to hear she's continuing to improve, keep up the great work

Yippee!

Excellent news - yeah for poo!!!!

Solid poo is wonderful news! Im glad to hear she's improving!

UPDATE: Just got home from the vet. Lidia's yeast infection is 75% better than last week but not completely. I am to keep her on the topical until the oral meds come in. Hopefully they will be in, in a day or two. I am also going to be putting collaste spray on that weird spot on her belly because it looks like she has been overgrooming it, so hopefully she'll leave it alone with that nasty spray on it. We have also started her on Clavamox because she is still hissing when she goes potty and she reaked of urine today but she couldn't get a good urine sample, so we are putting her on the clavamox in case she has UTI. Also, that strain of meds is the only thing we haven't tried so far. She seems to be improving but not like she should be. It just seems like one problem covering another. Good news though! vet said that I could put her back in with Tokyo!! She said that all the parasites seem to be dying so they shouldn't be contagious anymore and he can't get the yeast infection from her so they should be okay.

She looked at the bee pollen today compared to the parasite eggs and she was not mistaken. She even let me look at them. They do look very similar except the eggs have one more ring around the edge of them and the bee pollen doesn't. She said that all the parasites/eggs she has been seeing have be dead or are shriveling up and dying. So, I also got the go ahead to set all the gliders cages back up.

That's all good news Lynsie, Yippee!

Progress is great news, Lynsie! Not out of the woods yet, but the improvement must be such a relief for you (both!)!!

That is wonderful news! Now to just get Lidia 100%!

Congrats on her recovery!

Awesome! Keep up the good work! We're praying for you both! This has been such a hard time for you!

I'm taking Lidia down to Dr. Tristan in TX in a few days. She hasn't gotten worse or anything, we are just concerned because she is not getting better like she should be. So she's going to stay with Auntie Peggy until she is feeling better.

Have a safe trip Lynsie

I hope you get the answers Lidia's needs from Dr. Tristan. Im sure she'll be spoiled rotten with Auntie Peggy! Good luck! Sending good thoughts your way, and have a safe trip!

Lynsie, have a safe trip. I hope Dr T can get Lidia well again.

Good luck to Lidia, Lynsie and Aunt Peggy!

Wow! I just read this entire thread. What a roller coaster ride for you both.
I hope she gets better, soon! You guys will be in my thoughts.
That's so nice of Peggy to take care of her for you. I agree she'll be more than spoiled...

Get better soon Lida!!

Was there an update on Lidia? I sure hope she's doing better and there were answers found for what was going with her.

Yah, What's going on?????

Lidia is in Texas with Peggy, under the care of Dr. Tristan

Kinue, Lidia is here with me, she is doing really well. Tokyo is here also.

Lidia had some tests done and also some cultures sent out that we are waiting to get the results back from. She is currently on baytril and domeboro. Her stools are normal and although she still has a small *sore* area, the rest of her belly is all cleared up. She is also gaining weight.

Current updates can usually be found over at LGG...we miss ya over there.

Im glad to hear she is doing so well. She's been on my mind, good thoughts still being sent her way.

Thanks for the update Peggy.

Lidia is up to 46 grams and doing good.

I am sure she misses her Mommy but YEAH for Auntie Peggy!!!! This little girl is so lucky to be so loved by so many! Hope she makes a full recovery soon!

Aww she's soo cute!

Thanks for taking the time to post a pic! She looks like she's really being spoiled!

Thanks for the picture! Look at that sweet little face! She looks like she's smiling! It's fantastic to know she's doing so much better! She's in great hands! Lynsie, know that everyone is praying for your sweet Lidia and she'll be back home soon!

Peggy, what tests were run on Lidia so far? Have you gotten the results from those tests? What this poor little one has seems like such a mystery with the strange off/on symptoms etc.

Has Tristan an idea on it? Treatment?

Thanks for the updates! We're pulling for her full recovery!!!

They ran a blood panel, 4 different types of fecals and possible something else. They also did x-rays on her.

Tristan came to the conclusion that her system was so off from changing her meds. Some of the meds she was on would up the positive gram bacteria and some would up the negative gram bacteria. In the end she ended up with almost all negative gram bacteria and hardly any positive gram bacteria. Treatment was Baytril for 14 days.

She goes back in for her checkup on Tues and we will get the results from all the tests then.

Hmm. How interesting. But that poor baby. Im glad she's getting better and you and Peggy are getting to the bottom of things. Hopefully that means fully recovery soon!

C&S was done and cultures are in the process of seeing what grows....

Kinue, did you have anything in mind with what is going on? Always up for opinions and suggestions. Two heads are always better than one.

Im surely not a vet, really just following along with treatments as this seemed like an interesting thing that was going on, parasites compounded with what seemed to be a strange yeast like infection... I at least had not seen anything like it here on the boards or in person.

I just hope she's fully recovered soon. I know this has been going on a long time and has probably been alot of stress for such a little girl. Im glad she's in such good hands.

Ok, just got off the phone with Lynsie...Now I can tell the rest of you the latest with Lidia. What a trooper she is...poor ole gal.

Lidia is clearing up nicely, She was indeed a sick little girl. You will see yourself in just a minute...She did have one area that just would not heal up, no matter what was done...



Tristan did a skin biopsy on this area. The skin around it was thicker than the rest of her skin.
He thinks all this could have something to do with a genetic problem and told me today he REALLY wished people would stop breeding for albino/creminos...It could take up to 3 weeks for the results to get back on the skin biopsy but he will call me as soon as it comes in. He also did another pouch culture just to make sure everything is all cleared up. Although she looked 95% better than the first time he seen her, he wants to b sure, everything is definitely gone.

Lidia got 3 stitches today where he removed the *sore*...she has not messed with them at all. So all keep your fingers crossed and prayers going out that tonight neither her nor Tokyo decide to mess with them. I have the ecollar ready though....just in case, but something tells me, Im not going to need it.

Ok now for the results... I will write it as it is on the paper...

Culture & Sensitivities

Source Fecal
Preliminary #1 12/03/2008
Organism #1 Coliforms
Heavy Growth

Preliminary #2 12/04/2008
Final Report 12/05/2008
Organism #2
No Salmonella or Shigella Isolated

Culture (Anaerobic)

Source: Fecal
Source:
Status: Final
Organism #1
No anaerobic bacteria isolated


Next report :

Culture & Sensitivity

Source Pouch
Preliminary #1 12/03/2008
Organism #1
Enterobacter Cloacae
Heavy Growth


Preliminary #2 12/03/2008
Organism #2
Citrobacter Freundii
Heavy Growth

Organism #3
Klebsiella Pneumoniae (This is the one he said he is most concerned with)
Heavy Growth

Organism #4
Enterococcus Species
Moderate Growth

Final Report 12/05/2008
Organism #5
No beta streptococcus isolated