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Questions! #1417831
10/13/18 01:26 AM
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1. I saw sisal rope can be dangerous to gliders. Is it not recommended to use at all? If you keep up with it and trim the fly-aways, should it be okay? I'm curious for future purchases.

2. Lets say you are having a rough time finding homes for your joeys' and your house is starting to pile high with gliders' you can't afford or have room for. There is a cage on Exotic Nutrition named the "Double Wide Cage" that claims to be ideal for breeding and separating males and females. Could you use this cage to separate your breeding pairs without stressing them out? They could interact through the bars, (could they still mate through the bars though??..) and you wouldn't have to neuter your male earlier than you would have liked. I'm just curious for breeding projects. (I really don't want to have to neuter my male before retirement but if this situation did happen to me, I can't seem to find any other solution than cutting him. I'm thinking for the future.) Please note that I'm not going to resort to the cage solution (unless I knew my gliders' wouldn't stress hard over it), but I would like opinions on if it could be a possible option.

Last edited by AlyCatz; 10/13/18 01:28 AM. Reason: Added Cage Link!

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Re: Questions! [Re: AlyCatz] #1417835
10/13/18 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: AlyCatz
1. I saw sisal rope can be dangerous to gliders. Is it not recommended to use at all? If you keep up with it and trim the fly-aways, should it be okay? I'm curious for future purchases.

You can buy natural cotton rope by the foot from Amazon. See link here. Simply buy what you need in any color. Tie a knot in each end and install in your enclosure. It can be washed when dirty. I used cotton horse leads in my enclosures, and the gliders loved them. Don't think Amazon had the option of buying by the foot way back then wink

2. Lets say you are having a rough time finding homes for your joeys' and your house is starting to pile high with gliders' you can't afford or have room for. There is a cage on Exotic Nutrition named the "Double Wide Cage" that claims to be ideal for breeding and separating males and females. Could you use this cage to separate your breeding pairs without stressing them out? They could interact through the bars, (could they still mate through the bars though??..) and you wouldn't have to neuter your male earlier than you would have liked. I'm just curious for breeding projects. (I really don't want to have to neuter my male before retirement but if this situation did happen to me, I can't seem to find any other solution than cutting him. I'm thinking for the future.) Please note that I'm not going to resort to the cage solution (unless I knew my gliders' wouldn't stress hard over it), but I would like opinions on if it could be a possible option.


First, you can separate the joeys from the parents which is what I hope you are doing. I'm not sure what you mean by "your house is starting to pile high with gliders' you can't afford or have room for" What are you doing with the joeys?

Second, I don't personally like the idea of separating a bonded pair, however, if you have to do that, I especially don't like separating them to where they are still that close together. It puts them both under lots of stress not being able to actually be together.

If you have so many unwanted gliders, why not get the male neutered? You already know it is difficult to place the joeys. What would change that in the future?


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Re: Questions! [Re: AlyCatz] #1417840
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You would also have to house each breeding male separate from each other and the male joeys.

Scent of females in heat could cause fights and possible deaths amongst an unneutered adult males.

As far as the rope I'm not sure. I use braided fleece.


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Re: Questions! [Re: KarenE] #1417846
10/13/18 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: AlyCatz
1. I saw sisal rope can be dangerous to gliders. Is it not recommended to use at all? If you keep up with it and trim the fly-aways, should it be okay? I'm curious for future purchases.

You can buy natural cotton rope by the foot from Amazon. See link here. Simply buy what you need in any color. Tie a knot in each end and install in your enclosure. It can be washed when dirty. I used cotton horse leads in my enclosures, and the gliders loved them. Don't think Amazon had the option of buying by the foot way back then wink

2. Lets say you are having a rough time finding homes for your joeys' and your house is starting to pile high with gliders' you can't afford or have room for. There is a cage on Exotic Nutrition named the "Double Wide Cage" that claims to be ideal for breeding and separating males and females. Could you use this cage to separate your breeding pairs without stressing them out? They could interact through the bars, (could they still mate through the bars though??..) and you wouldn't have to neuter your male earlier than you would have liked. I'm just curious for breeding projects. (I really don't want to have to neuter my male before retirement but if this situation did happen to me, I can't seem to find any other solution than cutting him. I'm thinking for the future.) Please note that I'm not going to resort to the cage solution (unless I knew my gliders' wouldn't stress hard over it), but I would like opinions on if it could be a possible option.


First, you can separate the joeys from the parents which is what I hope you are doing. I'm not sure what you mean by "your house is starting to pile high with gliders' you can't afford or have room for" What are you doing with the joeys?

I'm most definitely separating the joeys from their parents when they are of age to do so. What I meant by that quote you mentioned is this: lets say you are a sugar glider breeder. In order to keep your house from filling up with your breeding pairs joeys, you need to find appropriate homes for them to go to. If you don't find those homes, you will need to keep them at your own home until further notice. If you still can't find homes for the older joeys, you will need to keep them and also care for the new incoming joeys your pair are producing, creating what I tried to call a "pile up". Depending on how big your sugar glider room is, you could be running out of space for all the gliders that you need to care for.

Second, I don't personally like the idea of separating a bonded pair, however, if you have to do that, I especially don't like separating them to where they are still that close together. It puts them both under lots of stress not being able to actually be together.

If you have so many unwanted gliders, why not get the male neutered? You already know it is difficult to place the joeys. What would change that in the future?


I don't have unwanted joeys'. I was just giving an example of a situation to go by. A situation where somebody could have thought of using that cage for a temporary solution.


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Re: Questions! [Re: Ladymagyver] #1417847
10/13/18 04:35 PM
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I usually use crocheted and braided fleece as well, since I read it is an "easier-on-the-nails" and safer fabric for gliders' to use. I actually found the rope information in the forums before I posted this question! Its under "Housing & Accessories" toward the top locked posts under the sub-forum "HAZARDOUS toys or toy parts & cage parts list". I still wanted to ask and get others opinions, though.


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Re: Questions! [Re: AlyCatz] #1417852
10/13/18 06:22 PM
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I didn't read your post as a 'what if' scenario but thought it was something you were dealing with now.

I still don't really like those cages to separate bonded pairs.


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