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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: pappy1264] #604197
08/04/08 05:44 PM
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Gina, keep in mind these creatures see you as the head of the pack. If you are worried and fretting they are going to feed off of this and realize there is something wrong. Heavily.

They are dependent on you being the mommy, and right now all you can do is keep yourself together and think POSITIVELY.

Like:

"I want fawkes to get better, I want him to heal, I want him to have a healthy appetite..."

Get rid of the negative because its just making things more stressful on you and your little guy.

You will get the magnets, you will have the vitamins, you are a fantastic mommy and in the end all that matters is you ARE doing the very best you can with what you have and you will find the resources to make this situation better.

Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: ] #604237
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I'm sorry, Gina. I know it has been a really bad week for you. hug2 I remember the magnets taking a while to get to me as well. I always wondered if they got stuck to the inside of some mailman's truck and it took them a couple of days to notice. roflmao

Sorry about the VAL syrup, that is ridiculous. Hope everything gets there soon! hug2


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: sugarlope] #604272
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Rofl Gretchen, I thought of that too! I keep wondering if they got stuck to his bumper or something! roflmao

Fawkes refused waxies altogether tonight - hopefully he eats his dinner. I'm going to try to hand feed him a bit tonight. He took a couple of worms from me, but he tricked me - when I took him out of the pouch, there they were, wiggling at the bottom. frown

Looks like I might be using the Ensure sooner than I thought...

Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: ] #604280
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I packed them pretty good to make sure that there was no way they could get stuck!

Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: LSardou] #604282
08/04/08 07:52 PM
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Oh Linda, I'm sure it's just some Postal Service faux pas tounge

Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: Cora] #604299
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Gina, you and Fawkes are in my thoughts and prayers. I'm sad to hear that you are having to deal with a health problem like this but glad he has you to take care of him.


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: pappy1264] #604301
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I'd start it on ensure while you hand feed him, just so he can get used to the idea of it you know?

When Minnie Mouse was ill, and I was loosing my mind, as she was anxiety ridden I realized she was only reacting to how I was reacting.

Also maybe throughout the day take a little plastic spoon and put some chicken baby food on it. If he doesnt take that, try some honey with chicken.. and so on and so on. I noticed that when MM was sick she was doing everything she possibly could to have me wait on her hand and food.

However it seemed to do the trick. He also is upset cause he isnt with him cage mates anymore (obviously) and I am sure shock is setting in about now.

If you havent already done so, when I have to seperate someone from the crowd I set up a cage next to the "mother cage" so they can at least hear, smell, and see one another. Even went to the length of moving the Mother Cage's food shelve so whomever the unlucky one was could at the very least eat with the family.


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: LSardou] #604334
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Originally Posted By: LSardou
I packed them pretty good to make sure that there was no way they could get stuck!


I knew that too, but I know when you are waiting on something your mind starts thinking up all kinds of funny things. roflmao


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: sugarlope] #604378
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Gina I am sorry to be reading this about Fawkes. We will be keeping you both in our thoughts. One thing i tried to get meds down is Hawaiian Delight Baby food. Maybe that will help a little bit with getting the meds in him.
hug2


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: BCChins] #604395
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Gina - I cannot describe how worried I am for Fawkes, but also how happy I am to know that he is in such good hands. What an example you are setting to all glider owners - new and old. THANK YOU for going the distance for Fawkes. THANK YOU for never giving up hope.

I am keeping ou and Fawkes in my prayers. I so wish I was closer.


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: ] #604401
08/04/08 10:32 PM
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have you tried something he really likes and mixing the m eds in it. but only use a tiny bit of the food he likes so he gets all the meds down.

Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: ] #604422
08/04/08 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mayetze
He also is upset cause he isnt with him cage mates anymore (obviously) and I am sure shock is setting in about now.

If you havent already done so, when I have to seperate someone from the crowd I set up a cage next to the "mother cage" so they can at least hear, smell, and see one another. Even went to the length of moving the Mother Cage's food shelve so whomever the unlucky one was could at the very least eat with the family.


I have not separated him from his family, I don't see the need to. Separating him would just stress him out and further aggravate the cancer. He needs his family right now.

Karen - mixing the meds in food doesn't work. There is far to much meds & the taste is too strong to hide in anything. I can give him less if I just mix it with water. If I mix it with food (yogurt, pudding, etc) he has to ingest 3 times as much to get his meds down.

Brenda - I bought some Hawaiian Delight, but with the other "fruity" baby foods, it only seemed to heighten the bitterness of the herbals - so I haven't used it yet. It seems like the milkier things, like pudding, tone it down best. But I have to use a lot of it in order for it not to turn into a rock - For it to be a workable paste, I need about 1.5ccs of pudding, which is a lot for a wee glider. This is why I switched to water. I can use about 0.5 -0.75cc of water...

I'm going to go pick up some avocado tomorrow & we're going to have a mini glider buffet & try to find something he'll eat. I sat with him tonight & picked the peas & corn out of his Priscilla's mix & he wouldn't even take those. My mealie shipment should be here tomorrow too, maybe he'll find those more palatable than the waxies, I dunno...

Maybe he's eating in the middle of the night when I'm asleep & I just don't know it (*crossing fingers*). I guess we'll see when we have his weigh-in on Wednesday.

Thanks guys, for all your support...

Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: ] #604423
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Originally Posted By: Monster
I asked about the Essiac & she said that there are no clinical trials to back it up, and that there are over 40 different formulas being marketed as Essiac in North America right now - so really there's nothing to say that it doesn't work, but there's nothing to say it does either.


Sorry I haven't been on lately between a schedule change at work, and drill...however...when it comes to Essiac, Essiac Canada International is the ONLY authorized distributor, with the ONLY true recipie as originally turned over by Nurse Renee Caisse. They have Essiac for pets, at this site: http://www.essiacforpets.com/ a phone number is listed and they recommend calling them for info before ordering...may I suggest calling them? It surely can not hurt...
hug2


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: hipbchik] #604446
08/04/08 11:10 PM
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Thanks Carolyn - but according to their charts, I'd have to give him about 14.5g of the Essiac powder twice a day. That's a lot!

With the 2 herbals I'm giving now, combined, they are less than 0.4g twice a day - and I'm already having trouble getting that down him.

The only thing I wonder is how the powder tastes. If it has the same horrid taste that these herbals have or if it tastes better. Have you ever tasted it outside the capsule (I realize that's a very strange question)?

I wouldn't stop giving his current meds, just because my vet has had success with other animals (and people). But it might be an option for an addition if it's something fairly tastless that could be added to food.

Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: ] #604460
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Originally Posted By: Monster
Thanks Carolyn - but according to their charts, I'd have to give him about 14.5g of the Essiac powder twice a day. That's a lot!

With the 2 herbals I'm giving now, combined, they are less than 0.4g twice a day - and I'm already having trouble getting that down him.

The only thing I wonder is how the powder tastes. If it has the same horrid taste that these herbals have or if it tastes better. Have you ever tasted it outside the capsule (I realize that's a very strange question)?

I wouldn't stop giving his current meds, just because my vet has had success with other animals (and people). But it might be an option for an addition if it's something fairly tastless that could be added to food.



I can't say I've ever tried it outside the capsule...I was doing the Tea for a while,, & it was truly not a very pleasant taste...

As for the 14.5g 2X daily, I'm thinking that is for larger animals...that's why I think calling them would be best; I'm not sure they'll know what a Glider is, but maybe they could consult with Dr. Tristan?


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: hipbchik] #604540
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Wow, Gina, my heart goes out to you. hug2 I'm so sorry to hear about little Fawkes' condition, and the ongoing challenges you're facing. hug2 Hang in there! He couldn't be in better hands. Your continued love and support, in all ways, is powerful medicine as well. heart

Do you have a gram scale that you can use to weigh him each morning? I picked up one at Wal-Mart for not too much money. I know it's overkill, but now all three of my babies know the routine of being weighed as soon as I take them out of the pouch to go in my bra for the day. (Hiroshi was overweight and needed to lose 30 grams and I wanted to make sure he was the only one losing weight.)

Here's another fruit to ask your vet about: acai berry.

Would peanut butter work to mix his meds in? It's thick and has a strong taste. Or maybe almond butter or cashew butter? dunno

Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. heart


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Re: Fawkes has Lymphoma... [Re: KattyM] #604610
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Please go HERE for the continuation of this topic...


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Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma #604611
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Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: sugarglidersuz] #604613
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Gina, I'm so very sorry that you are having to go through this with Fawkes. Please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers hug2


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Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: sugarglidersuz] #604654
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Gina, tons of hugs and prayers from here- hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2
Clotho glider sends hers to her first Mommy, too, and her Uncle Fawkes!! I'm so sorry-I don't have experience with cancer, but if there's ANYTHING I can do or you need a shoulder-please give me a call! hug2

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Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: Xfilefan] #604659
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Gina, ideas for the meds: Melt some vanilla ice cream or fruit sorbet in a spoon and try mixing that in as a flavoring-it might help them go down easier. I've used both. I've also used Rose's Watermelon drink Mixer for Riker's Thyroxine-nothing in it that will hurt him, it's mostly sugar with flavoring and color-if he likes watermelon, or they also make flavors like blue raspberry and a few others.

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Jen/Colin :bb: Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed :wfb: Sinbad, :wfb: Gabby, :grey: Baby, and :grey: Alley
Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: Xfilefan] #604701
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Gina - at one point, Priscilla's diet called for Gatorade (powder mix with water to taste). My gliders lapped it up. A dab of honey and yogurt helped once when I had to give meds.


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Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: mattysmom] #605057
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Gina, I was talking with Jen today & she said that "Scientific Americana" (I think that was the magazine's name) had a special issue out on Cancer with new information in it. She had just picked it up at the store & as she was paging through it thought it might be helpful for you & Fawkes.


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Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: glidrz5] #605185
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Ok, so I'm typing one handed because Fawkes just had his first magnet treatment & fell fast asleep on my stomach, without a pouch, just out in the open! I guess he liked it! (((HUGS))) Linda!

Also, my mealie shipment arrived this afternoon and Fawkes ate 20 of them! In fact, he could hardly wait for me to hand them to him, he was ripping at them like a wild man! Apparently he was just sick of waxies! Whew!

Katty - thanks for the tips, I'll have to try the peanut butter. I have heard of Acai berry, will definately have to check that out & ask the vet for dosing.

I tried vanilla Ensure today since it's not much thicker than water, but man it turned into cement as soon as it hit that powder!

I heard about that article, I'm going to have to track it down.

Also, something else happened today...

Fawkes' is going to the University of Tennessee Veterinary Teaching Hospital to get a CT Scan/Radiograph to see if his cancer has spread. I can't go into details, all I can say is that Fawkes has a guardian angel looking out for him!
hug2 hug2 hug2

Today is a good day...

Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: ] #605258
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sounds good Gina..........thank goodness for glider angels!!! wink


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Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: Cora] #605272
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hug2 I'm glad today is a good day. hug2


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Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: TracieB] #605275
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Keep us updated on how is guardian angel appointment goes hug2

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Glad you had a good day Gina. Keep us posted on the CT scan. hug2


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Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: reeny] #605324
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Gina, thanks so much for the update! You 2 are definitely in my thoughts and prayers!

Re: Part 2: Fawkes Has Lymphoma [Re: ] #605399
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Gina,
Glad to hear another angel came to your rescue...here's hoping Fawkes' test comes out better than expected. I'll light a candle...
hug2


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